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Re: Reply to Steve, about Alice Miller and Anti-Psychotherapy
« on: August 08, 2019, 06:26:14 pm »
Well we all have to decide what we do and do not accept.

Like I said, you will see experience narratives coming out of Religion and Recovery too.  They are interpretations.

In 1901 William James wrote about two distinctly different types of religious experiences.  I have written about this, and drawing from Augustine's Confessions and from Alice Miller too.

Just because you say it is your personal experience, that does not mean that others cannot refuse some of the contextual elements, like the fact that it was part of psychotherapy.

I am hardly the first to challenge the legitimacy of psychotherapy and psychoanalysis, and to say that they are scams.

Some here defend psychiatry and drugs.  Some endorse street drugs like LSD, MDMA, Methamphetamine, and Marijuana.  I've known many who endorse Ethanol.

I do not go along with any of it.  Not intending to offend, but I really do not go along with it.

Dreyfus paper challenges the ways in which we understand what we know and what we are, and hence it challenges Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj2nOGksvTjAhWRoFsKHSH2A9QQFjAAegQIABAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsophos.berkeley.edu%2Fdreyfus%2Fpdf%2FAlternative%2520(Word98).pdf&usg=AOvVaw1haiE8_qIBPWD2WrIo7-ZR

Drawing on Martin Heidegger, Dreyfus challenged the Military Artificial Intelligence Community at MIT, and ended up leaving for UC Berkeley where he was well received.

Drawing also on Martin Heidegger, Paul Tillich pretty much demolished prior Christian Theology.

Psychotherapy is based on assumptions and it is based on a kind of a Philosophy.  I say that it is no longer credible, and that it is now a kind of Witch Doctoring.

Really interesting book:
https://www.amazon.com/Embodied-Mind-Cognitive-Science-Experience/dp/026252936X

Shows three circles, kind of like levels.  Deals with how we know what we know, but finally how we are what we are.

Most of what is Religion and Psychotherapy does not come off looking very good.

Deals with Cognition, Artificial Intelligence, and Psychotherapy.

And actually there should be a 4th circle, to include postmodernism and poststructuralism.

And people are saying that it was Gilles Deleuze who was really the first who was post-Heideggerian.

Totally demolishes Psychanalysis and Psychotherapy, and by using Nietzsche it rewrites Marx and Engels.

 https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Oedipus-Capitalism-Schizophrenia-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143105825/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3G6EKM1BK3QB3&keywords=anti-oedipus+capitalism+and+schizophrenia&qid=1565306368&s=books&sprefix=anti-oedipus%2Cstripbooks%2C191&sr=1-1

above is extremely challenging, best book to help explain it:

https://www.amazon.com/EPZ-Deleuze-Guattaris-Anti-Oedipus-Readers/dp/0826491480/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=anti-oedipus+ian+buchanan&qid=1565306429&s=books&sr=1-1

And I believe that in the later Foucault, and in some of those who interpreted him, there will be a highly effective refutation of all that is the Mental Health System, Psychiatry, Psychotherapy, Recovery, and Salvation Religion, as well as of this creation of an underclass which we are witnessing.