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Feminism
« on: June 06, 2019, 05:38:12 pm »
No I don't agree with everything every feminist says or does, but no one person is in charge of it.  There is not a long history of disparity and plurality within it.

Modern Feminism started in the 1880's, focused on getting the vote.

The second wave is after WW2, and the foundational work is usually seen as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Sex

If you want to know what it was like before feminism, read Marilyn French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Women%27s_Room

I've read much of the book, and I had gotten my wife to read it.

Watched this on television and was completely blown away.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081771/

French being interviewed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvhLsxpRRI

Watching on television, the early parts where Mira is in college, and then married to the doctor Norm, it for the first time showed me how insane it was the world that the women of my mother's generation had to live in.  Their complaints finally got through my thick skull

We need far more feminism, not less.

Very good book:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N2GBC2T/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i6

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Re: Feminism
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 05:47:44 pm »
Feminism is very important.  You can't argue against it without being against both men and women.

Michael Kimmel, sounds good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zCNaMU1UUY

Wanted to read some of his books for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kimmel

read this first

Guyland : the perilous world where boys become men / Michael Kimmel. (2008)


Now I don't know if Kimmel ever goes into railing against ****, strip clubs, or the sex biz.  I he does, of course I will not agree with with him.  And plenty of pro-sex feminists who won't either.

I actually see the sex biz as compensating for the ways sex is made contingent on wealth and power in other venues.

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Re: Feminism
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 06:02:07 pm »
I had heard of this John Gottman before. Michael Kimmel endorses him.

www.youtube.com